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 Post subject: Buying a PC
PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 7:19 pm 
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I've decided to get myself a new PC as I'm a little disgruntled with the performance of the new consoles. My Xbone is struggling to run games that re being released now - I'm looking at you Project Cars and The Witcher so I can only guess it's going to get worse as games try and push the envelope. I also want to take advantage of the cheaper PC games available which will probably offset the purchase cost over two or three years.

I'm asking you lot for a bit of help though - I've got a Mac at the moment so I've been away from the PC world for a few years and I have very little idea about what's good and what isn't. AMD or Intel, Nvidia or Radeon etc etc.

My budget is around £800ish although I'll be adding a bit on top to get a monitor as well as stupidly I can't use my iMac as a monitor and keep that on my desk at the same time. My main aim is to be able to run the newer games and make them look pretty - I'm not interested in photo editing or making moves or suchlike - I just want to play games.

How difficult is it to build my own machine - I can do Lego, but if it's going to be soldering and suchlike I'm way out of my depth?

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 Post subject: Buying a PC
PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 8:06 pm 
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This site pretty good for pricing up building them yourself: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com
Compares prices over a the main PC retailers and has some good builds submitted by others at various price ranges.

I'm getting a bit twitchy to upgrade my PC as well. Looking at current trends Intel seem quite a bit better for CPUs and Nvidia likewise for the GPU. AMD have shit the bed recently with shoddy graphics card drivers so I might just switch back to Nvidia and see if things run better on my rig.

Worth noting that a new AMD Radeon 300 series graphics cards are set to be announced next month so might be worth seeing if they're any good (using some new fangled super duper memory apparently).

New Intel CPUs in August too, so could be some good deals on the current lines nearer the time.

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 Post subject: Buying a PC
PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 8:35 pm 
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Building your own is easier than it used to be and there are some very helpful peeps on here that helped me build mine

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 Post subject: Re: Buying a PC
PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 9:27 am 
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Its been many years since I built a PC but its easy, it is pretty much like a jigsaw.

A few guys on here will point you in the right direction of the best parts to get.

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 Post subject: Re: Buying a PC
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Avoid generic stuff especially your PSU. They have tolerances way less than their advertised Wattage.

Remember the bigger the GFX card you buy the bigger the PSU you will need.

Sometimes bundles are cheaper than individual priced items, but sometimes they use shite memory to push their profit margins.


I personally am a fan of anything NVIDIA. MSI, Corsair, OCZ are all acceptable brands that are known for reliability.


Try here

www.aria.co.uk
http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/


Buying the biggest and baddest GFX card can lead to futureproofed gaming, but the most problems in regards to patching and stable patch builds.

Spend most of your budget on memory, and your chip, third being the GFX card and you should be set for a long time without having to upgrade.


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 Post subject: Re: Buying a PC
PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 7:21 pm 
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Thanks for the input so far people.

How does this spec look for something that will be future proof for a bit?

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/guide/DyKH99 ... ming-build

It also doesn't appear to have a sound card so would that be something extra to budget for or is there sound on the motherboard? See, this is how much of a twat I am when it comes to these things :)

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 Post subject: Buying a PC
PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 8:30 pm 
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All the motherboards come with sound cards built in (headphone jack and sometimes S/PDIF digital out)

Looks like a decent build. The i5 4690k is pretty much the sweet spot and not much point upgrading to an i7 unless you're doing a lot of heavy video encoding and such.
Some comments on that build guide mention the cpu cooler might be a very tight squeeze for the case so might want to look into that.

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 Post subject: Re: Buying a PC
PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 8:34 am 
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If the motherboards all have sound, would the only reason for a sound card be if I want to have a fancy 5:1 set up going on?

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The Disco Bison wrote:
If the motherboards all have sound, would the only reason for a sound card be if I want to have a fancy 5:1 set up going on?



Exactly, but then again some boards have fucking spectacular sound cards built in. Depending on case size you may want to avoid additional peripherals like a sound card. They also tend to lean towards serious studio related DJ equipment and the like.


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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 2:11 pm 
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The Disco Bison wrote:
If the motherboards all have sound, would the only reason for a sound card be if I want to have a fancy 5:1 set up going on?
Unless you're a massive audio snob there's really no need. If you spend all day listening to uncompressed FLAC audio files on high end studio monitor speakers then you'd probably benefit from getting a dedicated sound card, if not you won't really see a benefit :-D

A basic 5.1 PC sound system would normally use the 6 headphone jack sockets on the motherboard, but if you use an A/V amp you can just use the HDMI out from your graphics card to pass both audio and video.

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